Seahawks GM John Schneider on Coaching Change & Future
Seattle Seahawks General Manager John Schneider joined the Pat McAfee Show to discuss the pivotal decision to move on from Pete Carroll and hire Mike Macdonald. He also shared insights into player evaluation at the NFL Combine and the evolving identity of the Seahawks.
Seahawks GM John Schneider Opens Up on Pivotal Coaching Change, Future Vision
The NFL Combine is more than just a showcase for future stars; it’s a crucial intersection of scouting, strategy, and organizational vision. This year, Seattle Seahawks General Manager John Schneider joined the Pat McAfee Show from the heart of the combine, offering candid insights into one of the most significant decisions of the offseason: the departure of longtime head coach Pete Carroll and the subsequent hiring of Mike Macdonald.
Schneider, a two-time Super Bowl champion with the Seahawks, acknowledged the emotional weight of parting ways with Carroll, a beloved figure who led the franchise for over a decade. “Pete and I had great discussions all through that process,” Schneider stated, emphasizing that the decision was mutual and a matter of timing for both parties. “It was just time for both sides.” He elaborated that owner Jody Allen entrusted him and the leadership group to “move forward and start a new era with a different leadership group.” The 72-hour period surrounding the decision was described as intense, filled with uncertainty about whether to fire or hire a head coach.
The search for Carroll’s successor led the Seahawks to Mike Macdonald, the former defensive coordinator for the Baltimore Ravens. Schneider expressed immense confidence in Macdonald, highlighting his intelligence, clarity, and forward-thinking approach. “It was two hours, felt like 20 minutes,” Schneider recalled of Macdonald’s interview. “Clear, concise, intelligent.” The challenge from ownership to become the “best sports organization in 10 years” heavily influenced the selection. Schneider noted that Macdonald’s vision for the future of football and his ability to identify and address potential blind spots were key factors. He also revealed that due to the timing, the Seahawks relied on trusted colleagues like Dan Morgan, Chad Brinker, and Rich McKay, who had already interviewed Macdonald, to provide crucial input on his personality and potential fit.
The conversation then shifted to the quarterback position, a perennial topic of discussion. Schneider addressed the reports surrounding Gino Smith’s contract negotiations, confirming that discussions were not progressing smoothly and that the Raiders had also shown interest in the veteran quarterback. “Last year at this time, yeah, we were talking to Gino, it wasn’t going great,” Schneider admitted. The Seahawks were able to pivot within a three-day window and ultimately sign Sam Darnold. Schneider spoke highly of Darnold, noting that relationships with coaches like Kevin O’Connell and Clint Kubiak, who had experience with him, provided glowing reviews. “Great leader, real guy,” was how Schneider described the feedback on Darnold. He also touched on the resilience shown by the team, particularly after a tough loss to the Rams, and how players like Ernest Johnson elevated the team’s spirit.
Evaluating Talent: Beyond the Numbers
AJ Hawk posed a critical question about player evaluation at the combine, specifically questioning the significance of certain drills like the 225-pound bench press. Schneider emphasized that “eye in the sky and then the person, the competitor” are what truly matter. He stressed the importance of players being “smart, tough, reliable football players.” While acknowledging the value of interviews and medical evaluations, he underscored that observing how players interact with coaches and peers during drills, and their overall character, are paramount. The historical context of the combine’s origin—stemming from a case where a receiver was drafted legally blind in one eye—underscores the enduring importance of thorough medical assessments.
When discussing draft picks like Jaxon Smith-Njigba and Devon Witherspoon, Schneider highlighted the different evaluation paths. Smith-Njigba’s strong performance at the Senior Bowl against top competition served as a key indicator. Witherspoon, on the other hand, was an athletic marvel at the combine, whose physical gifts needed to be validated by coaching staff buy-in for his role. “You can’t just take the guy if you don’t have the buy-in from the coaching staff,” Schneider explained. He also defended Witherspoon, noting his youth and potential for growth, despite an early-season ankle injury that sidelined him after a promising start.
The Seahawks’ Identity: A Shift in Mentality
The discussion also delved into the team’s identity and the intangible qualities that contribute to success. Schneider drew a parallel between the current Seahawks and the Super Bowl XLVIII championship team, noting a subtle but significant difference in their approach. While the 2013 team embodied an “us against the world” mentality, the current squad is characterized by a more internal focus: “It’s all about us and we’re just going to go out there and have a blast.” He cited the personal tragedies faced by players like Charles Cross, Ernest Jones, and Jake Bobo, and his own loss, as unifying factors that fostered a deep sense of playing for one another. This profound connectedness, Schneider believes, makes a team incredibly difficult to beat.
Regarding external perception, Schneider acknowledged that the team’s defense, despite its effectiveness, didn’t always receive the national recognition it deserved. He recalled the close game against the Colts, where Philip Rivers’ performance was highlighted, rather than the Seahawks’ defensive prowess. However, he concluded that the team, unlike the Super Bowl XLVIII squad, doesn’t seem to carry an “us against the world” chip on their shoulder. Instead, they possess a quiet self-confidence, trust in the coaching and scheme, and a genuine love for each other, allowing them to “fly around balling.”
Schneider’s appearance provided a valuable window into the Seahawks’ strategic thinking, their commitment to building a strong culture, and their forward-looking approach under new leadership. The transition from Pete Carroll to Mike Macdonald marks a new chapter, and Schneider’s insights suggest a team poised for continued evolution and success.
Source: 2 Time Super Bowl Champion Seahawks GM John Schneider Joins Pat McAfee From The NFL Combine (YouTube)



